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For better or worse, here's a link for a preview of the first BRAND NEW DAY Spider-Man issue
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taraco wrote: Plenty of things have been retconned in comics over the years, some smartly, others clumsily. But this Spider-Man development may top them all for sheer wish-it-all-away remaking of a character. I actually think it was handled pretty well, but it's pretty mind-numbing, especially after Civil War and now, well...
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Meanwhile, do you think that the reboot is a necessity to attract newer readers? Marvel always did have complex storylines with references that could go back to the first pages of any book. With Spider-Man having over 500 issues it could be that a reboot will make the book a bit more reader friendly for new readers and allow them to jump onboard without feeling lost. Remember, Disney built an empire on releasing its classic films every five years figuring that every five years they had a fresh and brand new audience.
And Count Karnstein, I'm partial to the 60's Marvel books too, and I can see how being away from reading comics for several years can make the current books seem pretty alien when you give them a casual glance years later. But I hope I never reach the point where I automatically dismiss any form of current culture on that basis. The "All old--Good, All-new--Bad" argument gets more attractive as you get older, but deep down most of us don't really believe that's true, do we?
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riotengine wrote: Come to think of it, this is the comics equivalent of the infamous 9th (1986) season of Dallas, where it was all a dream and Pam walks in to find Bobby Ewing still alive in the shower.
This would be more fun if Peter wakes up and and finds Gwen Stacy in the shower.
Jan 7 08 1:44 AM
ArmandV101 wrote: riotengine wrote: Come to think of it, this is the comics equivalent of the infamous 9th (1986) season of Dallas, where it was all a dream and Pam walks in to find Bobby Ewing still alive in the shower. This would be more fun if Peter wakes up and and finds Gwen Stacy in the shower.
Jan 7 08 2:12 AM
You Know what's funny Count Karnstein? I pretty much agree with you--it's just I don't want to ! I want to have hope! And every time I see DC or Marvel attempt some major damage control to fix some past editors short-sighted mistakes, I give them the benefit of the doubt. Until they make their own short-sighted stakes and make me wait another ten years for the next guy to fix things. Which seems to be the way it goes. But speaking specifically of this situation, anytime somebody wants to unmarry fictional characters that never should have been married in the first place, it's all right with me. I mean, when you think of Get Smart, are 86 and 99 married? How about Mork and Mindy? Jeannie and Major Nelson? Probably no, right? The bright spot is those shows were near the end of their run and were gone in a year anyway. With comics though, when you write major characters into that corner you're stuck with that situation for YEARS. The problem isn't rebooting continuities to fix mistakes--the problem is writers and editors who make these stupid, short-sighted, obvious mistakes in the first place. All in the pursuit of short-term sales, and that generate consequences that won't really come into play until after they've gone on to other assignments and don't have to worry about them anymore. You know the best way to do a continuity fix though? Warren Ellis did this recently in an issue of Iron Man, and it used to be the way things were always done---they just had Tony Stark relate a brief flashback of his origin in the middle of a story, except they updated it to Afghanistan instead of Viet Nam, where it originally took place in the 60's. Four pages, no muss, no fuss. No multi-title crossover, no fan controversy. Onward and upward. And as for the shelf life of characters, I have to disagree. I think history has proven that a popular continuing hero can be timeless. James Bond, Captain Kirk, Superman, Spider-Man---there's no reason they can't go on forever. For cripes sake, in the last year there's been two Beowolf movies! Things change though, and a Spider-Man comic from 2008 is not going to read the same as one from 1968. But from what I've seen of the Brand New Day stories the feel is closer than I've seen in over twenty years, and that's something to be happy for. Until they screw it up. I give them six months
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