In case I came across as sympathetic for either Froggy or Ed, I am not. Sad yes, but I have no pity for people whose "ruined" lives are primarily the result of their own choices, as is the case with both these guys (Ed for sure; Froggy only going by what is reported of him). Whatever strikes they may have had against them from that roll of the cosmic dice we all get, there are millions of people in history who have done far more with far less and in far worse circumstances. In the end, they're self-pitying whiners so arrogantly full of themselves they'd rather self-destruct (and selfishly take others' property and/or lives with them) or hide from the real world, than be men.

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