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Jan 25 08 9:45 PM
Boy, Count, you are so right about the current Poop age. I was looking over some current comics at Borders last night, and they were all hideous,HIDEOUS I tell you!
Much as I liked Perez' work on Avengers at the time, it seems very crude to me now. I think it shows what a lot of drek was around at the time that Perez stood out . His last run on Avengers was breathtaking, he's an artist who has consistently improved over the years and never been content to rest on his laurels.
I would agree with what the Count said with just a handful of exceptions. I thought JIm Lee's X-Men during this period was very good. A couple of the Image titles were pretty good as well.
But my question is, the Count points out that during this period that some characters were forever damaged with idiotic changes. I think a couple of these that stand out in my mind are Barry Allen's Flash running himself into a cinder and Aquaman losing his left hand. Those two changes were like saying that The Flash and Aquaman were disposable characters. Another biggie that comes to mind is when Batman's back was broken. Then along came Kingdom Come and we saw that the back injury had lifelong effects on Batman. Nonsense.
My question is, what change do you think has been the most damaging to a character? Feel free to be brutal in your assessment.
Count, you obviously love comical bookies, know your stuff, and state your case well.
Folks running the biz then would have freely admitted they were writing for kids - but so were most of the classic fairy tale,and children's lit, writers for centuries; doesn't automatically make the stuff of no worth. The problem I have with much GA Timely/Marvel, is that it seems written BY kindergarteners, whereas most of National/DC's is at least coherent.
Since that means Segar's POPEYE, Gould's TRACY, Raymond's GORDON & X-9, Foster's TARZAN, Crane's WASH TUBBS & BUZZ SAWYER, etc., I don't see that as a failing?
I can only say that the best of the Siegel/Shuster shop's SUPERMAN; Jack Cole's PLASTIC MAN; Will Eisner's SPIRIT; Reed Crandall's BLACKHAWK; Mac Raboy's CAP. MARVEL JR.; the best of Simon & Kirby's GA work; Carl Barks' DONALD DUCK; the best of Finger & Robinson's BATMAN; much of the EC shop's work, etc., needs no apology that I can see?
To dismiss it all out of hand comes close to being analgaous to the thread elsewhere calling Silent Film "not Real Movies." And worst of all, closes off some dang satisfying reading!
Frank Miller's Dark Knight. Suddenly every writer after that "template" steered Batman slowly but surely into a friendless brooding paranoid psychopath.
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