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will		#601	[-]
Apr 23 12 5:02 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Godziwolf wrote: Camp gives it a place to go. That said, DS has done camp before. (All soaps do, eventually) Heck, the 90s TV version was damn-near a satire of the original, and had some of the worst day-for-night I've ever seen, which is especially egregious when it's a show about vampires. There are degrees of camp. A little toungue-in-cheek camp is fine with me. The trailer shows a flat-out burlesque.
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Wich2		#602	[-]
Apr 23 12 5:20 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	There's a fine line between having fun WITH the material, and making fun OF it. To me, Burton's other work shows someone whose vision is not sharp enough to see that line, or whose hand at the tiller is not deft enough to navigate it.
Rick		#603	[-]
Apr 23 12 5:31 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	The trailers look kinda funny to me. Nothing spectacular, but amusing. But..I have nothing invested in the old DARK SHADOWS. I saw the movies and enjoyed them well enough, and I certainly remember all the coverage in FM. But I watched the show for a couple of weeks and found it just an immense, crashing bore and gave up on it. So, personally, a comic take on the original doesn't offend me. But that's just me.
sirharryflashman		#604	[-]
Apr 23 12 8:38 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Rick wrote: The trailers look kinda funny to me. Nothing spectacular, but amusing. But..I have nothing invested in the old DARK SHADOWS. I saw the movies and enjoyed them well enough, and I certainly remember all the coverage in FM. But I watched the show for a couple of weeks and found it just an immense, crashing bore and gave up on it. So, personally, a comic take on the original doesn't offend me. But that's just me. No, not just you. I'm in pretty much the same boat. If it gives me 90+ minutes of entertainment I'm okay with it...which would be more than I've got out of the last couple Tim Burton/Johnny Depp vehicles. Cheers, Charles Prepolec Gaslight Grimoire Blog: News, Interviews and Updates Sherlock Holmes News: Sherlock Holmes in Films, Books and Media
Rakshasa		#605	[-]
Apr 24 12 10:17 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	sirharryflashman wrote: Rick wrote: The trailers look kinda funny to me. Nothing spectacular, but amusing. But..I have nothing invested in the old DARK SHADOWS. I saw the movies and enjoyed them well enough, and I certainly remember all the coverage in FM. But I watched the show for a couple of weeks and found it just an immense, crashing bore and gave up on it. So, personally, a comic take on the original doesn't offend me. But that's just me. No, not just you. I'm in pretty much the same boat. If it gives me 90+ minutes of entertainment I'm okay with it... Make that three of us, though I understand the hardcore fans being pissed off, I really do. If it were my favorite show (say, KOLCHAK, which ironically is supposed to be a future Depp re-imagining) I'd feel the same way. Links To All The Classic Monster Stills I've Posted: http://monsterkidclassichorrorforum.yuku.com/topic/30758
Gorilla At Large		#606	[-]
Apr 24 12 2:26 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Hard core Dark Shadows' fans need to look at it this way...without Depp and Burton doing the new movie there would not be all of the great DVD reissues from the original series and all of the cool swag from the show that normally would not see the light of day because of lack of interest. I'm hoping if they do a new Kolchak we'll see the original movie and tv series set on Blu ray, along with some cool reissues or new material on the old show...
BijouBob8mm		#607	[-]
Apr 25 12 8:59 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Heck, the 90s TV version was damn-near a satire of the original, and had some of the worst day-for-night I've ever seen, which is especially egregious when it's a show about vampires. Yeah, but that version also had Lysette Anthony so I cut it some slack.
ArmandV101		#608	[-]
Apr 25 12 9:28 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	BijouBob8mm wrote: Heck, the 90s TV version was damn-near a satire of the original, and had some of the worst day-for-night I've ever seen, which is especially egregious when it's a show about vampires. Yeah, but that version also had Lysette Anthony so I cut it some slack. The two Angeliques (Anthony and Lara Parker) had a session at a Dark Shadows Festival in L.A. in the early 90s. It was very entertaining and, thankfully, I recorded it with my camcorder. Armand's Rancho del Cielo
flashback		#609	[-]
Apr 25 12 9:50 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	tim burton insists it is not a comedy but when you look at the trailer it is hard to accept the statment. when the green hornet came out and the trailer first was shown people told me i should give it a chance.that it may not be the stupid version that the trailer made me think it would be.i finally gave it a chance and got the blu-ray dvd combo. and did give it a chance.it was as bad and wrong as i thought it would be. i think this will be the same case with tim burtons dark shadow.
Jameson281		#610	[-]
Apr 26 12 11:27 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Burton comments on the tone: http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1683866/tim-burton-dark-shadows-cinemacon.jhtml
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will		#611	[-]
Apr 26 12 12:22 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Burton is full of crap. Maybe he thinks Pee Wee's Big Adventure was an action movie. DS may have had a weird vibe as a daytime soap opera, it didn't have the type of weird vibe in his trailer.
Joe Karlosi		#612	[-]
Apr 26 12 12:28 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Burton sounds so goofy in that MTV interview clip. He sounded the same way when he was trying to defend the ending for his APES movie on the DVD audio commentary... he talks in incomplete sentences, stumbles about. He even looks a little like Goofy. "Guy named Squeamy got thrown from the fifth floor. He's deader'n a mackerel."
will		#613	[-]
Apr 26 12 12:44 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I actually think I would rather see Ed Wood's version of Dark Shadows than Tim Burton's.
Saturday8pm		#614	[-]
Apr 26 12 12:49 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I respect Burton's loyalty to Depp, but if this is a comedy, fine. But if it's a reinvention, NYET! "Lord I love Spring! The birds, the fair weather, the new flowers. It doesn't get any better than this. HOLY CRAP! what's THAT?!?"
kinggirlfriend		#615	[-]
Apr 26 12 2:27 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	will wrote: I actually think I would rather see Ed Wood's version of Dark Shadows than Tim Burton's. ^^ THIS!
Gorilla At Large		#616	[-]
Apr 26 12 2:42 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	It well may not be a true comedy in the definition of one. We've briefly seen maybe 5 - 7 minutes of scenes from a 1 hour and 53 minute movie. It's possible the Warner Brothers' marketing department decided to emphasize the offbeat humor in the movie to distinguish itself from all of the other vampire movies that have overpopulated the theater during the last few years and another vampire movie promoted as a serious thriller may just be white noise to the general public. The other 1 hour and 46 minutes may have more Gothic thriller, gore, scares and drama in it not shown, despite the fact its humor and being billed as a comedy. "Cabin in the Woods" is billed as a horror movie, but it was one of the funniest movies of the year I've seen with almost equal parts humor and horror, but it is not considered a comedy, nor does it really fall into the camp of representing only one genre. It's kind of a mixed bag. Same with "An American Werewolf in London". Sure it's a comedy, but it also works as a horror movie with genuine scares and vice versa. The movie on the surface may seem like a misfire for fans of the original Dark Shadows and already viewed as a flop, but most people I've talked to not familiar with the original source material think it looks great and can't wait to see it. This seems like a movie with no middle ground.... you're either going to love it or hate it. I'm going to give it a chance. It may surprise all of us being a huge hit as well as an entertaining movie and I know I'm looking forward to seeing it, even if ther is a chance I'll be disappointed with the end result. Last Edited By: Gorilla At Large Apr 26 12 3:07 PM. Edited 6 times.
Jameson281		#617	[-]
Apr 26 12 8:58 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	There's a new featurette that shows them filming Christopher Lee's cameo, plus Depp speaking of Frid and Frid's cameo: http://trailers.apple.com/trailers/wb/darkshadows/
cjh5801		#618	[-]
Apr 26 12 10:43 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Taken as a parody, a sort of MAD magazine version of DARK SHADOWS, there might be some enjoyment here. Sort of like FLASH GORDON. - Clark hollowaypages.com
Red Gargon		#619	[-]
Apr 28 12 12:17 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Joe Karlosi wrote: Burton sounds so goofy in that MTV interview clip. He sounded the same way when he was trying to defend the ending for his APES movie on the DVD audio commentary... he talks in incomplete sentences, stumbles about. He even looks a little like Goofy. Tim Burton is one of the most inarticulate public people I've ever heard speak - just hearing him talk in interviews or DVD commentaries you'd have trouble figuring out how he could get a job at Waffle House let alone be entrusted with multimillion dollar movies. I'm not a kneejerk hater of his stuff - there are several of his movies I like a lot, and maybe he's just wired to communicate "visually", but, sheesh.
Helrunar		#620	[-]
Apr 29 12 10:28 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I know, re Burton... but actors absolutely adore working with him. I've been watching the latest DS clips (actual clips from the movie as opposed to the suits attempts at marketing via trailers) and I'm really impressed by Pfeiffer. They were really lucky to get her. She reinvents the character of Elizabeth Collins Stoddard which was fortunate because trying to do it as she was in the original series without Joan Bennett just wouldn't work. And like I say, Pfeiffer practically says that Burton walks on water in her interviews. It's funny to see the filming shots and how Burton seemed to be sporting Grayson Hall's "bedhead" hairstyle from house of DS when he was working on that movie... sorry, that joke might be too recherche for this forum. My latest thought about the movie is that they started with Burton and Depp's concept of Barnabas. I find it extremely goofy, but if they started with that, that explains a lot about how the film wound up being... to accomodate the absurd (yet at times graceful and beautiful) weirdness of Depp's performance, the entire movie had to be pitched into an absurd realm of comic cheesiness. Maybe not how it actually played out but it makes me understand how they got there... Eva Green is really incredibly good as Angelique. I just wish they had left all the "Death Becomes Her" superwitch nonsense out of it, but it seems to be the only way that Burton knows to tell this kind of storyl H.
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