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Apr 25 12 11:02 PM
Apr 26 12 5:56 AM
SteveZodiak wrote: I'm old school Hard Rock and what used to be called heavy metal, Heep, Sabbath, Mountain, Rush, Triumph, a little Queen. throw some prog in with Starcastle, Strawbs, Triumvirat, Trillion. Ironically, the dean of hard rock, Led Zepplin was a group I never took a liking to, beyond LZ II and Zofo. I throw straight rockers in there like Tucky Buzzard, Slade, Lucifer's Friend.
Apr 26 12 6:40 AM
Spoiler II wrote: johnny poveratti wrote: Fans of the crossover thrash/hardcore sound might want to check out Municipal Waste, they are hugely influenced by DRI in particular. They have a good new album out called The Fatal Feast: Waste In Space; the earlier albums The Art Of Partying and Hazardous Mutation are well worth checking out as well. Funny lyrics and speedy tunes are the order of the day - their best is probably "Terror Shark" from Hazardous Mutation..."OUT OF THE WATER!!!". Municipal Waste was born from the underground punk scene and toiled there for several years,doing split EPs with hardcore bands,playing house/basement shows and touring with punk bands almost exclusively. I got to see them numerous times (a house show with DR.KNOW, a church show with TRAGEDY,a community center with ANNIHILATION TIME and my band played with them in Daytona Beach. It always perplexed me how people i knew into old thrash metal never heard of them for so long and when i tried to introduce them to them,they weren't interested..i guess because they weren't in magazines or something goofy like that.
johnny poveratti wrote: Fans of the crossover thrash/hardcore sound might want to check out Municipal Waste, they are hugely influenced by DRI in particular. They have a good new album out called The Fatal Feast: Waste In Space; the earlier albums The Art Of Partying and Hazardous Mutation are well worth checking out as well. Funny lyrics and speedy tunes are the order of the day - their best is probably "Terror Shark" from Hazardous Mutation..."OUT OF THE WATER!!!".
Apr 26 12 7:34 AM
Apr 26 12 8:35 AM
emoore7 wrote: What's funny is...many of the bands that are considered "hard rock" not metal sound heavier, grungier to me than a bunch of what's considered "heavy metal"...especially the 80's hair metal.
Apr 26 12 8:46 AM
Koukol 5 wrote:I've never been big on pigeon holing bands. Bands like THE ACCUSED , MISFITS (Earth AD era), SAMHAIN & BAD BRAINS (to name a few) are extensions of Punk with other added Rock influences making a genre known as Hardcore. (actually I don't know WHAT genre SAMHAIN would be)My point with my last post was that if the other bands listed get a classification other than HARD ROCK then THE CLASH and THE RAMONES should so too...PUNK ROCK!
Apr 26 12 9:04 AM
luisj40 wrote:Since many of you are mentioning many non-metal bands here are a few bands I also enjoyed that I think go well with metal music: TSOL, The Misfits, The Exploited, Discharge, Amebix, The Ramones, Alice in Chains, Suicidal Tendencies, Lacrimosa and several others.
Apr 26 12 9:13 AM
Apr 26 12 9:16 AM
jamesenstein31 wrote:Koukol 5 wrote: Groups like Joy Division and Killing Joke were found in the ALTERNATIVE section at record stores so I just call them that. I always wondered where the term ALTERNATIVE came from? What was it the alternative to?
Koukol 5 wrote: Groups like Joy Division and Killing Joke were found in the ALTERNATIVE section at record stores so I just call them that.
Apr 26 12 9:20 AM
jamesenstein31 wrote:Why has punk and metal been so combative? They are so relative and it's odd to see such close-mindedness. I enjoy all manner of harder music and can listen to both the simple and the epic. It boggles the mind, but maybe it sums up the majority of folks. The whole Slayer being despised by punks is quite different today and comical to think of. I mean, Reign in Blood was damn near a punk album in execution, just with added speed and intensity. What did those guys have against satanism and fantasy? Henry Rollins cites Slayer as one of his favorite bands!
Apr 26 12 10:08 AM
Carl Eyesnheart wrote:Koukol 5 wrote:I've never been big on pigeon holing bands. Bands like THE ACCUSED , MISFITS (Earth AD era), SAMHAIN & BAD BRAINS (to name a few) are extensions of Punk with other added Rock influences making a genre known as Hardcore. (actually I don't know WHAT genre SAMHAIN would be)My point with my last post was that if the other bands listed get a classification other than HARD ROCK then THE CLASH and THE RAMONES should so too...PUNK ROCK! I was full on into the Punk scene in '84-'89, or so, when the whole crossover thing was becoming big. I can tell you for a fact that a band like The Accused was NEVER accepted into the Punk world. I saw them when they opened for GBH on the Panic In The Casket tour. I have seen very few bands recieve that type of abuse from an audience. The only way a crossover band could survive and be accepted was if they walked the Hardcore side of the line, and not the Metal side of the line. Long hair? Forget it. Skinhead? Fine, as long as you weren't Nazi. Even then, though, those bands had followings that were predominatley skin and punks would kind of shy away from them. Other things such as a Slayer sticker on your guitar would kill you in the punk world. At that time, for some reason, Slayer was the poster child for Metal-stupidity. If the punks were to make fun of a Metal band, they would more than likely use Slayer as the joke. It was that whole Devil and fantasy mentality that was despised. Oddly enough, Nuclear Assualt was one of the most accepted Metal bands I ever saw in the Punk world. Even with a vocalist like Connelly (think I am remembering his name right), they were loved. The reason? EVERYBODY loved Dan Lilker, and EVERYBODY loved S.O.D. when it first came out.
Apr 26 12 10:28 AM
johnny poveratti wrote:Spoiler II wrote: johnny poveratti wrote: Fans of the crossover thrash/hardcore sound might want to check out Municipal Waste, they are hugely influenced by DRI in particular. They have a good new album out called The Fatal Feast: Waste In Space; the earlier albums The Art Of Partying and Hazardous Mutation are well worth checking out as well. Funny lyrics and speedy tunes are the order of the day - their best is probably "Terror Shark" from Hazardous Mutation..."OUT OF THE WATER!!!". Municipal Waste was born from the underground punk scene and toiled there for several years,doing split EPs with hardcore bands,playing house/basement shows and touring with punk bands almost exclusively. I got to see them numerous times (a house show with DR.KNOW, a church show with TRAGEDY,a community center with ANNIHILATION TIME and my band played with them in Daytona Beach. It always perplexed me how people i knew into old thrash metal never heard of them for so long and when i tried to introduce them to them,they weren't interested..i guess because they weren't in magazines or something goofy like that. Hey, that's great your band got to play with Municipal Waste. I too don't understand people who aren't interested in checking out new bands that play a style of music they like. May be partly age, as they get older they lose some of that curiosity and just aren't open to new stuff. Someone (was it you?) mentioned Excel earlier, that's a band I really liked back then. Split Image in particular. Always thought they were a cut above the typical crossover band. Another good one was Wasted Youth, at least the Black Daze album. Didn't care much for their earlier stuff but that one is insane, they went full-on thrash at that point. "Good Day For A Hanging" still gets thrown on now and then. The drumming in that song is fantastic. Actually, the bass player from WY went on to play guitar in Velvet Revolver (not a fan myself).
Apr 26 12 10:31 AM
Apr 26 12 10:38 AM
Carl Eyesnheart wrote:The amazing thing, IMO, is that most of those old Hardcore albums still sound great in the production aspect. Whereas much of the Metal sounds like victims of the time period. Thin and tinny, with crap drum production. The limited budget for the Punk bands actually seems to have saved them in the sound department.
Apr 26 12 11:24 AM
A perfect Monster has no end...
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Apr 26 12 2:25 PM
Koukol 5 wrote: Great posts guys!First off there was no MEGADETH when Punk exploded (for me) in mid seventies.I became a Punk when I discovered the NY Punk scene in the mid 70's.I'm an original Generation X and was the right age for it.I immediately sold all my LED ZEP albums (my favorite group up til then) and began collecting ANYTHING different and new.I felt anyone who dismissed Punk was simple minded and stuck in the past (heavy metalers)In fact long hair metalers would shout out of their car windows at me all the time with slurs like "$%$" because I dressed Punk and dyed my spikey hair black (remember this was the 70's)Carl...you're a kindred spirit!I thought THE REPLACEMENTS were GOD in the 80'sI hated the World for for buying crappy hair bands instead of them.Oh, and ALTERNATIVE was just a lazy way of record stores in my area of grouping groups like WIRE with JOY DIVISION with CHROME and THE RESIDENTS etc.before New Wave.Also, I always thought that HUSKER DU, MINUTEMEN, MEAT PUPPETS and THE REPLACEMENTS etc were Post-Punk.BTW~ I rebought all of LED ZEPS albums on CD.
Apr 26 12 3:25 PM
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