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DougGorius	METROPOLIS - Paramount Version	Lead	[-]
Oct 21 11 11:46 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Having seen the nearly uncut version of the film and immensely enjoying it, I am curious to see the 115-minute Paramount version adapted by Channing Pollock, as horrible as it sounds. However, I can't find a copy of it anywhere. In comparison to the intertitles on this page (http://www.uow.edu.au/~morgan/Metrok.htm ) that appear to be Pollock's originals, the PD editions I've been able to find feature completely different intertitles with the characters' original names among other things. I also have scans of the cue sheets to the Paramount version, and they correspond to the intertitles in the link I posted, not whatever source the PD copies came from. So... can anyone help me find a good-looking copy of it? Thanks! Last Edited By: DougGorius Oct 22 11 1:07 AM. Edited 3 times.
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gatester		#1	[-]
Nov 5 11 7:37 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I just got a copy of this version which says: "Adapted by Channing Pollock" it is color tinted 145 min. A very high quality print. And it was this print Moroder used to make his movie. Pollock hated Metropolis. I mean he hated the ideas which he labeled "communistic" & thru watching this version, which has his 1927 writing, he put in titles where none were & distorted those that were. I am lucky to have it & grateful to the person who sent it to me. If you look at the title list you will see title no. 134:50 the scene where the robot is debuted among the elite to see if it will be accepted .... is missing. It is also missing from my version. Last Edited By: gatester Nov 5 11 7:44 AM. Edited 1 times.
gatester		#2	[-]
Nov 8 11 1:11 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	!! !! Last Edited By: gatester Nov 8 11 1:13 PM. Edited 1 times.
gatester		#3	[-]
Nov 8 11 1:18 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	!! !! !!
HalLane		#4	[-]
Nov 8 11 1:33 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Beautiful pics, gatester. (Any one of which would make great potential avatar material ) Thanx for sharing!
HalLane		#5	[-]
Nov 9 11 12:56 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Yeah, not bad at all!
gatester		#6	[-]
Nov 10 11 10:11 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Actually I got two versions of Metropolis last week. The Australian version in color & a Japanese DVD which is actually a Griggs-Moviedrome print with piano tinkling by Stuart Oderman 95 min. When I grow up I'll have an avatar.
Wich2		#7	[-]
Nov 10 11 11:50 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Oderman's scores can be excellent. I kept my old Griggs copy of the '20 J & H just for that. And I also had the pleasure of seeing him play live for some Thanhouser shorts in that studio's home, New Rochelle.
gatester		#8	[-]
Nov 10 11 1:01 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	To tell the truth I don't usually listen to music on silent films at home. It distracts me. But the BBC version is not music really but noises. The Griggs-Moviedrome version has Japanese subtitles on top of the English titles. The writing by Pollock was changed in America but Australia kept them in & we have an example of what Pollock was trying to do. Metropolis was shortened in America as well. Its much longer in Australia, altho missing all that stuff from Argentina.
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Wich2		#9	[-]
Nov 10 11 1:13 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	>To tell the truth I don't usually listen to music on silent films at home.< For what it's worth, that's not how the makers intended their work to be experienced. As Kevin Brownlow put it, "Silent movies were never really silent"
gatester		#10	[-]
Nov 10 11 5:25 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Wich2 wrote: >To tell the truth I don't usually listen to music on silent films at home.< For what it's worth, that's not how the makers intended their work to be experienced. As Kevin Brownlow put it, "Silent movies were never really silent" I know its just me.
VincenzoPescado		#11	[-]
Apr 12 12 1:16 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Does anyone have any info that could help me track down a copy of Pollock's cut? Was it ever released on any home video format? I've found pages comparing some of the budget "public domain" DVD releases in my search but nothing that conclusively points to any of them being the version I seek. Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Bob Meyer		#12	[-]
Apr 12 12 1:04 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	David Kalat recently wrote an article on the Pollock cut and why it should be preserved alongside the new reconstruction. http://moviemorlocks.com/.../07/remaking-metropolis/
Barbenfouillis		#13	[-]
Apr 12 12 2:17 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I have to confess ignorance on the difference - if any - between the terms "Griggs Moviedrome" & "Channing Pollock" when it comes to describing versions of Metropolis. Are the 2 the same? Also...how do all of those slight differences in the many pre-Kino-days vhs tapes fit into the grand scheme of things. Some of them used to have small amounts of footage that others did not. For instance, I'm pretty sure that - if I were to drag out those old clunkers - that a few would have more of the "track meet" scene in the beginning of the film? Steve "This is the wireless detonator, men," he explained. "When I press this key it will complete a radio circuit in the real detonator tuned to this wave combination. As soon as I can get the boy Hank, I'll have him tow the old duck boat with the wireless bomb and leave it under the radio shack where that Evans chap has his laboratory and his confounded radioplane. Then blooey!" Last Edited By: Barbenfouillis Apr 12 12 2:29 PM. Edited 1 times.
Wich2		#14	[-]
Apr 12 12 2:54 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	>I wasn’t saying that art was made by the merchandisers–my point is art is made by the audience. The greatest work of art ever made, if buried in a cellar and never witnessed by another person, doesn’t really count as art.< Well, I disagree entirely with that. There's this odd sense of entitlement that some Audience members sometimes assume... to me, the actual Art is still the creation of, and in a one strong sense the property of, the Artist.
ryanbrennan		#15	[-]
Apr 14 12 6:26 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I've got an 8mm print of METROPOLIS from Enterainment Films. I wonder which version it is? It conforms to the description of the Pollock cut.
TomWeaver999		#16	[-]
May 19 12 8:33 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	<< Does anyone have any info that could help me track down a copy of Pollock's cut?>> A CHFB lurker e-mails me: << The Channing Pollock, US Paramount version has been preserved at George Eastman House. They made a nice neg some years ago from an original 35mm nitrate print. It's the version they send out now with the Alloy Orchestra -- or at least they did 10 years ago. It is a very, very important version to have, and to see -- cuts and Pollock's religious weird fervor notwithstanding -- because it was THIS version that was seen and reviewed at the time. Even in Germany after the premiere, it was THIS version that was shown subsequently. So nasty bastard that it is, it is central to our understanding of METROPOLIS as it was received, reviewed, and influenced most people and most places in 1927-28. Thank God we have the restoration -- but this is a supremely important footnote to understanding the film's arc and influence. <
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