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davlghry	Arrrrrrrrrrrr	Lead	[-]
May 31 09 9:59 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I don't think I've seen TREASURE ISLAND since childhood but last night's airing on TCM was full of surprises, the biggest revelation being just how bloody and violent it is. This was before Disney was DISNEY. Men are stabbed, run through with swords, shot in the face and there's blood spilled all over the place in glorious Technicolor. In some ways it's more of a horror film than a rousing adventure yarn with all the bloodshed, violence, child-endangerment and its rich gallery of grotesques, the richest of which is Robert Newton's Long John Silver. It's an indelible and iconic performance and Newton chews more scenery than the ants in THE NAKED JUNGLE. Uncle Walt couldn't have been happy when Newton reprised the character (much toned down) a few years later in the non-Disney series "The Adventures of Long John Silver." TREASURE ISLAND is a reminder that the Disney films of yore probably gave children more rough nights than most horror films.
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Cadaverino		#1	[-]
May 31 09 8:58 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	The violence is what got this 1950 Disney movie a PG rating when it was re-issued in 1992. Believe it or not, two Shirley Temple movies from the 1930s got PG ratings from the MPAA when they were released on home video.
M F Berry		#2	[-]
Jun 1 09 12:47 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Okay, I'm curious to know ... which two, Cadav?
Marshall Crist		#3	[-]
Jun 1 09 1:45 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	BRIGHT EYES, BABY TAKE A BOW, THE LITTLE COLONEL...possibly others as well. P.S.: Arrrrrrrrr.
GothChick1313		#4	[-]
Oct 19 09 2:59 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Speaking of Disney pirates, I've heard that Johnny Depp will return as Jack Sparrow in a fourth PIRATES OF THE CARIBBEAN adventure.
drmedula		#5	[-]
Oct 19 09 3:58 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Captain Jack's return would seem to be a certainty as long as there's money to make off him- but I keep hearing rumours that Depp's the only one interested in doing it. ( I'd rather see something with more verisimilitude, myself... Captain Jack Sparrow's just not as interesting as Calico Jack Rackham!)
GothChick1313		#6	[-]
Oct 23 09 12:59 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Elsewhere on the Boards, there was talk that Depp would be playing Tonto for Disney in an upcoming Lone Ranger project.
drmedula		#7	[-]
Oct 23 09 4:05 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Yeah, Depp's at that "hot spot" in his career where his name is attatched to so many projects, he can't possibly do them all. (In fact, I've heard he's had to pull out of Gilliam's DON QUIXOTE "re-boot"...)
GothChick1313		#8	[-]
Dec 12 09 9:07 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Based on advance photos of Depp in Burton's ALICE IN WONDERLAND, I'd like to see Depp do the other Mad Hatter...for the next Batman film. (Actually, Depp would have probably made a good Joker.)
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pogodip		#9	[-]
Dec 15 11 5:39 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I was frightened by Robert Newton too. In some ways he’s my favorite actor. Newton is such a scary, crazy, pirate that it’d be fun to see him chew Johnny Depp’s wet behind the ears buccaneer up and spit him out again. It’s easy to watch this movie and feel like Newton is recycling every pirate cliché ever invented. But in fact he created our image of a pirate. Long John Silver never rolled his eyes or his “arrrrrrrs” until Newton did. Back to topic, somewhat, does anyone else see another one of Robert Newton’s’ pirate films “Blackbeard the Pirate?” That one is even grislier, filled with torture and sadism and violence. It’s strong stuff for the 1950’s. So I was delighted, if not surprised to discover that the project was originally developed by Val Lewton as a horror movie, and was scheduled to star Boris Karloff!
lencandraw		#10	[-]
Dec 17 11 6:07 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I love the Newton Long John Silver. He is the best part of the Australian sequel as well as the ensuing television show.
scotpens		#11	[-]
Dec 17 11 11:23 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	pogodip wrote: . . . It’s easy to watch this movie and feel like Newton is recycling every pirate cliché ever invented. But in fact he created our image of a pirate. Long John Silver never rolled his eyes or his “arrrrrrrs” until Newton did. Indeed, the clichéd “pirate” accent began with Robert Newton, who talked that way because he was from Shaftesbury, Dorset, in the south-west of England. It was his normal way of speaking! Last Edited By: scotpens Dec 17 11 11:29 PM. Edited 1 times.
pogodip		#12	[-]
Dec 18 11 6:34 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	David Niven, in one of his books, talks affectionately about going out on the town with Robert Newton, who apparently was one of Hollywood’s all-time great lovable drunkards. Everybody who knew the man seemed to have colorful antidotes about him. Niven’s are really funny, and a little sad. They did a movie together “Soldiers Three” - Newton and Niven, set in colonial India, and while I was watching it my wife came in and heard Newton rolling his R’s just like when he was terrorizing the Spanish Main, and the first thing she said was, “that guy talks just like he's a pirate!”
scotpens		#13	[-]
Dec 20 11 2:56 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	pogodip wrote: Everybody who knew the man seemed to have colorful antidotes about him. Which he would have needed after bellying up to the bar and choosing his poison!
gene phillips		#14	[-]
Dec 20 11 4:16 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	davlghry wrote: I don't think I've seen TREASURE ISLAND since childhood but last night's airing on TCM was full of surprises, the biggest revelation being just how bloody and violent it is. This was before Disney was DISNEY. Men are stabbed, run through with swords, shot in the face and there's blood spilled all over the place in glorious Technicolor. In some ways it's more of a horror film than a rousing adventure yarn with all the bloodshed, violence, child-endangerment and its rich gallery of grotesques, the richest of which is Robert Newton's Long John Silver. It's an indelible and iconic performance and Newton chews more scenery than the ants in THE NAKED JUNGLE. Uncle Walt couldn't have been happy when Newton reprised the character (much toned down) a few years later in the non-Disney series "The Adventures of Long John Silver." TREASURE ISLAND is a reminder that the Disney films of yore probably gave children more rough nights than most horror films. The novel's structured much like Jim Hawkins's real-life nightmare, and has a horrific note at the end which I've not seen reproduced in any film adaptation. NATURALISTIC! UNCANNY! MARVELOUS!
pogodip		#15	[-]
Dec 21 11 1:22 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	.....Hadn't thought of that. The last line of the book is very, well, nightmarish.
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