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(07/01/09 9:10 PM) |
paleoguy wrote:"I just hate it. I feel like a youngster at a wonderful party sitting on the floor with all my games spread out before me. When you tell me I am 70 it is as if my nurse were coming to me to say, 'Bertie, it is getting late - time to put those toys away.' I don't want to put my toys away." ~ H.G. Wells on turning 70 Gadfly |
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(07/01/09 11:26 PM) |
Wich2 wrote:I hear what you're saying Wich, but it's still somehow different in a manner that I can't quite put my finger on. I think the younger folks tend to view AMC and TCM the same way they'd view oldies radio. Prehistoric if you catch my drift. Sadly, we seem to live in a culture that has no sense of and respect for history by & large. |
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(07/02/09 10:30 AM) |
Oh, brom, I never disagreed that the FEEL of watching the classics (and not-so-classics) was different then! I'm as nostalgic as anyone, and it was indeed
a different era.
My point is just the NUMBERS: the stuff is out there as much, or more, than ever - if you want it. -Craig |
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(07/02/09 11:06 AM) |
atenolol wrote:TRIVIA: I read that the word "electrocution" was coined specifically to refer to death by the electric chair. It is a compound of "electric" and "execution". Prior to that, there really wasn't a word for "killed by electric shock." As the word fell into common parlance, it became the term for any such death. I even see it used occasionally to describe a non-fatal shock.
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(07/02/09 11:26 AM) |
Bob Dylan always wants to get the "old" out of his concerts because they aren't willing to expand. That's why he enjoys the younger folks who
are willing to expand and think and not just be saddled down with the same old stuff year after year. That's one way I agree with him. It might be hard
finding a young person but I've always noticed that when you do find one, they're a lot more willing to be open minded and watch things that I
couldn't get my parents or someone older to watch. As for "never grow up", most people do and those who don't aren't looked at very
highly. Again, people seem to think kids won't want "classic" film but lets be honest here. There aren't too many "classics" that
are discussed here anyways. Most of the films are just cult or fan boy material so I don't think teens should be guilty because they don't watch
FRANKENSTEIN'S DAUGHTER or MY SON THE VAMPIRE. People here might have gotten a kick out of these when they were kids but perhaps a kid today would rather
watch Buffy or something else current.
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(07/02/09 4:15 PM) |
Wich2 wrote: The thread "TV GUIDE MONSTERS: YESTERDAY AND TODAY" (down in the 'Memories' section) offers somewhat different perspectives on this from others, Craig. (As you said earlier, this topic now seems to be getting brought up in various threads). I vehemently disagree with you, as you know; you just cannot find the older vintage stuff on day-to-day TV now - not even on Cable - as it was back in the earier days of broadcast TV. The availability of the movies on Home Video doesn't mean much, even though it's there for those who want it; when it's not in audience's faces on regular TV, they have to seek it out. Let's face it... even with VHS and DVDs available, more kids in schools were into the old monster movies back then because they were on their TV sets all the time and they just naturally became familiar with them. |
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(07/02/09 4:31 PM) |
Personally, I'd prefer the title THE 80s AND BEYOND over "Tomorrow's Classics". But it's all good.
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(07/02/09 4:32 PM) |
JennyUndead wrote:True enough. Many of the films that have been discussed there are considered "classic" in their own right as well. |
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(07/02/09 5:19 PM) |
Joe Karlosi wrote:I've not seen that film yet, but I suspect it wasn't the first modern monster movie to borrow from the classics ... SPOILER ALERT FOR Freddy vs Jason AND Aliens vs Predator - Requiem In the climax for Freddy vs Jason, the two titular terrors are hacking it out on the end of a pier while the hero and heroine set the pier on fire. Sound familiar? And at the end of Aliens vs Predator - Requiem, the lead predator and alien (well, "pralien", actually) are in the midst of an as yet unresolved death match when a man-made cataclysm (in this case, a nuclear explosion) wipes out the entire area. The way this was presented reminded me of the end of Frankenstein Meets the Wolf Man. Granted, both instances may be total coincidences, especially the latter example. But then again, near the beginning of the first Alien vs Predator we see someone watching FMTWM on TV. So it appears that if the classic monster movie has died, a few modern filmmakers may have been robbing its grave. Gadfly |
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(07/02/09 5:24 PM) Burgomaster |
I've once again had to delete numerous posts because members cannot keep from attacking one another.
The people involved are urged to go find another movie forum if they cannot conduct themselves with dignity, and to refrain from making the place suck for everyone else. Seriously. You guys will be gone if it recurs. Thank you. |
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(07/02/09 5:28 PM) |
Joe Karlosi wrote:Joe, I use the terms we were supplied with. CHFB is a BOARD. Universal Horrors, Tomorrows Classics, ETC are labeled FORUMs, and HAS the classic monster movie died? is a THREAD. I know that CHFB is not entirely dedicated to the old black and white Universal Horror films of the 30s, 40s, and 50s. But, I would suppose that is the intent of the UNIVERSAL HORROR FORUM, right? |
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(07/02/09 5:28 PM) |
Joe Karlosi wrote:Joe, this brings up a point I've made many times about the classics. I feel that the easy availability of them on VHS, DVD ect, while wonderful, has also cheapened them to many of us. I have almost any classic you can name on DVD, but do I watch them every day? Nope. But if I'm channel surfing and TCM is showing one, do I stop and watch? Absolutely. Its more about the "surprise" aspect and how cool it is to find one on than popping open a case and watching it.... |
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(07/02/09 6:01 PM) |
TheShadowsVoice wrote: It's the predatory/explorer instinct. Maybe its a guy thing. I do it all the time. |
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(07/02/09 6:27 PM) |
I know this group of kids (3 of them, all brothers) who come to a classic arcade every Friday night that has "Flashback Friday" from 6-10. 10
bucks and you can play any classic arcade game all you want on freeplay.
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(07/06/09 10:04 AM) |
I remember when I was a kid in the late 60's/early 70's scouring TV Guide for monster movies that would be airing that week. One time I even stayed up
to some un-Godly hour to watch I Was a Teenage Werewolf (which I had never seen), which started at 2:00 am. Back then horror films were mainstays of
independent stations. Nowadays, the black & white films and the Hammers just aren't televised that much aside from occasional airings on AMC, usually
late at night.
My 15 year old daughter's attitude toward these films seems typical of the younger generation. She's become a bit of a horror aficionado, bringing to my attention The Orphanage and Dorothy Mills. But when I suggested she check out the older Universal classics she dismissed them as 'lame.' |
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(07/06/09 12:36 PM) |
bromstaker wrote:"when I suggested she check out the older Universal classics she dismissed them as 'lame'." I am confused. If she hasn't checked them out, how does she know they are "lame"? |
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(07/06/09 6:40 PM) |
atenolol wrote: She's seen Bride of Frankenstein when she was younger. My 11 year old son has watched Dracula with me when he was younger, and as far as he's concerned Lugosi is Dracula. He's not really interested in these films, but he won't even consider watching anyone else play Dracula but Bela. Regarding my daughter's attitude, it's sadly typical of her generation to dismiss any old movie, particularly b&w films. |
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(07/07/09 11:35 AM) |
I grew up with a Dad who spent most of his youth in cinemas. We were brought up on stories about all the horror movies he watched as a kid. Most of them were
the classic Universal Horrors we love so much. I cannot imagine a life without the Classic Monster friends I have loved all my days. My Dad seemed to know all
the films off by heart with quotes like "That was the one where he falls into the sulphur pit at the end" we as kids sometimes thought he could not
know as much as he said. But as we were old enough to see the films for ourselves we realised he knew them by heart and still does. I have passed on this love
of the Classic films to my daughter who is just as at ease with Bela Lugosi as she is with Jason (not my taste!) I will do as Forry said and never grow up. As
long as that means I can carry on watching the best films ever made The Classic Unversal Horrors!
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(07/08/09 6:01 AM) |
I wonder though if any of the modern 'monsters' - Freddy, Jason etc - will be remembered with the same affection as the classic monsters like Dracula
or Frankenstein. I just can't imagine anyone in 50 years time getting a warm glow of nostalgia from Freddy Kreuger. Will any of the modern monsters endure
in the way the classics have?
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(07/08/09 6:08 AM) |
Servant of Legendre wrote: They have already reached that iconic status, have a lot of nostalgia, and endure. Michael Myers, Freddy, Jason -- they're like the classic Dracula, Frankenstein, and Wolf Man of yesterday. Just check out the documentary film HIS NAME WAS JASON and you may be convinced. Even Jason's trademark hockey mask is as iconic as Dracula's cape & fangs. |
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The one kid, Jamie, is so enamored with The Creature that he can't stop talking about him, lol
