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Nickolas Cook	Thriller (1982)	Lead	[-]
(06/27/09 5:12 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite	This is still the best music video ever made.� Back in 1982, when I was a wee lad, it had everything: great music, dancing, and awesome special effects.� Landis, Baker, and Jackson created something magical.� This horror fan thanks them all... Nickolas Cook Moderator:Shocklines Writers Group MySpace My Books The Black Glove: a horror blog/magazine
Nickolas Cook		#1	[-]
(06/27/09 5:14 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite	This, however, doesn't quite make it... Good try, though, I guess. Nickolas Cook Moderator:Shocklines Writers Group MySpace My Books The Black Glove: a horror blog/magazine
Spoiler II		#2	[-]
(06/28/09 3:45 AM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite	Nickolas Cook wrote: This, however, doesn't quite make it... Good try, though, I guess. Too be honest,as great as Rick Baker's phenomenal zombie makeups are,i find THRILLER to be a chore to sit through as an adult these days. �� Mr. Gooly Mar,on the other hand, is 100% untainted comedy gold from the second he shows us his dimestore fangs and starts to cut a rug with all the jerky intensity of a man being struck by lightning repeatedly.
Wich2		#3	[-]
(06/28/09 3:50 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite	And there is the remark of Vinnie's, quoted in his daughter's book, to the effect that he was *ahem" "shafted" money-wise on the gig.
NaschysDracula		#4	[-]
(06/28/09 6:18 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite	Just watched this video on TV. There couldn't possibly be a better music video anywhere in the world. Having seen this video a gizzilion times and watching in but 5 minutes ago noticed something I never knew about the video......in the movie theater scene in the beginning where Michael Jackson gets up to leave his seat......who is sitting in the row right behind him......had to look twice was Forrest Ackerman.....WOW!
blackbiped		#5	[-]
(06/29/09 1:57 AM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite	I like the song's arrangement much better in the video than on the album. I have nice memories of "Thriller", the video and the album, because it was in the waning days of the era when it was still possible to like Michael Jackson without feeling creepy about it. We didn't know that yet, though. He was just a handsome, likable young man who seemed to have it all together at the time, and I was happy for his well-deserved success. I regret that things seemed to go so wrong after that. Legend, oh legend, the third wheel legend...always in the way. My MySpace page BumsCorner.com
Strockstar		#6	[-]
(06/29/09 8:23 AM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite	Everything you said, Blackbiped.
G Vallejo		#7	[-]
(06/29/09 9:16 AM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite	This was IT when I was a kid. It was the talk of the playground and the lunchroom. I didn't see it until a little bit later, because we didn't have cable. But as soon as I saw it, it was like a friend made it just for me. Perfect for a kid growing up on the old Universals and the 50s B-movies, and a few years before the zombie flicks and MTV-vampire movies became accessible to the youngsters. Consider the true cost of living with Clown Phobia.
hermanthegerm		#8	[-]
(06/29/09 1:18 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite	I've never seen the complete Thriller. When this came out I was in prep school and bussing tables after school. Even though the bar had MTV on at all times I never really got into M Videos. I was busy working. I've never liked MJ much, though I think his best work is from his J5 beginnings up to the Off The Wall album. King of Pop, fine. But I'm not into Pop. Some dumb DJ was saying that MJ has to be among the top 5 American artists of all time. right. Thriller and beyond just seems like so much hypocritical, fake art. As you may be able to tell I got a lot of flak this weekend. I don't mind. I will watch the Indian version regardless of the MJ OD of late. "There is a lot of money tied up in this film and people expect to hear a boom when something blows up, so I'll give them a boom." George Lucas as quoted by Harlan Ellison's WATCHING Last Edited By: hermanthegerm 06/29/09 1:27 PM. Edited 2 times.
Spoiler II		#9	[-]
(06/30/09 4:51 AM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite	I had never seen nor cared about that 2003 interview with MJ that delved into his daily life and asked him point blank questions about his controversial life. I saw a portion of it tonight and couldn't believe people still held him in incredibly high regard. Saying he only ever had his nose done while his coloration and changing facial structure was due to him still "growing" as a person (even tho he was in his 40s) ? Going into a high end store and dropping almost a half a million on needless room decorations in one afternoon? Making his kids wear masks and veils in public so they couldn't be seen? Talking one of his newly born babies after they cut the cord and rushing it home (still covered in placenta) because he was worried a checkup might bear bad news? Hanging a newborn baby over a balcony to show off to his fans? The list is endless. The absurdly nervous and spastic way he sat one child on his lap while sheilding its face in a paranoid frenzy while trying to feed it and speaking garbled baby talk made me almost nauseous. Thats not charming eccentric behavior,its flat out disturbing. Even if the oft mentioned child allegations were 100% proven untrue tomorrow,he would still have enough unlikable and detestable behavior to completely diminish any musical output he ever had. Sure,THRILLER was a cool video to look at,but i was about 9 when it came out and all that dancing did nothing but keep the camera off of Rick Bakers great work which was infinitely more interesting to my eyeballs.
Strockstar		#10	[-]
(06/30/09 11:28 AM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite	Wow. Not keeping up with celebrity news, I missed all of this behaviour. Yikes. Sounds like Jackson certainly needed a good social worker. cough cough My sister tells me they're saying now his children aren't biologically his. Whether that is ultimately proven true, I feel sorry for this man. He had to have been miserable to be so disconnected from reality.
bipolarber		#11	[-]
(06/30/09 2:19 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite	I dunno... have you seen "reality" lately? (I think if I were rich enough, I'd be doing my best to escape it as well.) "[The audiance] will populate the darkness with more horrors than all the horror writers in Hollywood could think of. If you make the screen dark enough, the mind's eye will read anything into it you want! We're great ones for the dark patches." -VAL LEWTON
ghoulkid		#12	[-]
(06/30/09 2:28 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite	The man had talent,I can't deny that. But a genius? I don't think so. A genius at self promotion maybe. Except for the unnecesary dance routine,Thriller wasn't bad. The visuals were (and still are) pretty good. But MTV jumped the shark with this video.After this,videos became less about the music than the visuals.It was only a matter of time until MTV abandoned music altogether. Yes,he changed MTV,but he sent it into decline at the same time.
Strockstar		#13	[-]
(06/30/09 8:49 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite	The kids and I have spent hours enjoying dancing to "Thriller." We're by no means MJ fans, but that choreography is so much fun! You get to be a ZOMBIE!!! How cool is that??? Go to youtube.com and look for the "Thriller" dance step-by-step.
Nickolas Cook		#14	[-]
(07/01/09 3:42 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite	ghoulkid, no offense, but I have to disagree with your comment: Michael Jackson may have helped revolutionize a burgeoning art form, but he was hardly the main reason why MTV turned into a putrid excuse for entertainment. Their about face was inevitable when record companies stopped putting money into videos and they all became essentially live performance videos without the least artistic merit beyond seeing your favorite musicians lipsynching their songs. And since MTV couldn't control the record companies' lack of desire to sink money into a non-profit format they had to find other avenues to hold the viewers' attention- in short, they had to create an MTV culture that would suckle on their particular glass teat. Which meant creating game shows, dance shows, and heinous crap like Real World and Road Rules that would guarantee viewers, so they could sell airtime to advertisers. So if you want to blame anyone, blame the record companies, blame MTV for wanting to stay in the black, and finally, blame the pea-brained morons that sat there and lapped up the latest episode of MTV's Cribs and Remote Control like mother's milk. Jackson might have been musically antithetic to some, and, yes, maybe he even did some bad things with young boys, but let's be real and accept that he was hardly the main reason why our culture has become the equivalent of a cream filled Ho-Ho. Nickolas Cook Moderator:Shocklines Writers Group MySpace My Books The Black Glove: a horror blog/magazine
ghoulkid		#15	[-]
(07/02/09 7:48 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite	I'm not referring to the quality of the videos. I liked Thriller,as I stated in my post. It was very well made which might of resulted in what you stated. Maybe it upped the ante and the record companies didn't want put that much money into videos for their smaller artists to compete.Who could blame them? In the beginning MTV was almost all performance videos by a few American acts like Tom Petty and a whole bunch of English acts,just playing their instruments in front of the camera. That was the beauty of MTV. In the beginning,a lot of acts we probably would of never heard of recieved exposure to the masses. Part of my massive cd collection is due to seeing these artists on MTV in those early years. What I'm most referring to is the influx of choreography in these videos,of which I say Jackson had a big hand in. With choreography,it became even more visual and even less about the music. Thinking about it,at the time Thriller came out,I was already sick of MTV. It went from being a must see channel to something to kill a half hour in between shows. Maybe it was the nature of the beast. Maybe MTV naturally dictated that visuals would override the music. Most of the hair bands proved that. I didn't say Jackson was the main reason,but I think he was the spark of the decline. After him,it seemed pop music started to creep into MTV with the emphasis on visuals,such as how well they could dance. Wow. At least that's what did for me. To me,it's always about the music.
blackbiped		#16	[-]
(07/06/09 1:31 AM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite	MTV was definitely a ton more fun before the record companies realized what marketing tools videos were and started churning them out like any other product. I loved watching all the obscure bands with their makeshift videos back when MTV needed all that kind of stuff they could get their hands on to fill airtime. It was all videos, all the time, and you never knew what you were going to see next. I even get nostalgic for the dumb veejays in their homey little set, and the low-key pirate station aura that it had. Back then it didn't seem like there were fat sweaty guys in business suits running everything, even though there probably were. Legend, oh legend, the third wheel legend...always in the way. My MySpace page BumsCorner.com Last Edited By: blackbiped 07/06/09 1:43 AM. Edited 1 times.
ghoulkid		#17	[-]
(07/07/09 1:11 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite	Do you remember the late night concerts? Some of those were as classic as the videos. VH1 Classic played a few of them but just kept repeating the same ones. Getting nostalgic, I remember,in the early days,MtV at times would develop technical problems and just blank out for hours at a time. All you would see is that moon shot picture with the MTV logo on the flag. When it happened,we'd get upset,like it was the end of the world. I haven't watched VH1 classic for a while.Maybe I'll give it another look.
blackbiped		#18	[-]
(07/07/09 2:51 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite	Yes, I still have some of their concerts and New Year's Eve shows taped, such as Split Enz, Divinyls, Eurythmics, Go-Gos, and Thompson Twins. Legend, oh legend, the third wheel legend...always in the way. My MySpace page BumsCorner.com
Gadfly		#19	[-]
(07/10/09 6:29 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite	For those who liked Thriller, you might find Jackson's 1997 video/mini-movie Ghosts (co-written by Stephen King and directed by Stan Winston) of interest, although after the events of the years since then some may feel that the scenes and dialog featuring young boys fall into the creepy-not-in-a-good-way category. BTW, that's Michael Jackson in heavy makeup playing the bespectacled, overweight, middle-aged leader of the torch-wielding "mob" of concerned citizens: Ghosts Part 1 of 4 Ghosts Part 2 of 4 Ghosts Part 3 of 4 Ghosts Part 4 of 4 Gadfly Last Edited By: Gadfly 07/10/09 6:33 PM. Edited 1 times.
Jaybo		#20	[-]
(07/25/09 11:29 AM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite	"Ghosts" seems to be an almost forgotten piece--certainly as good, if not better (IMO) than Thriller. The make-ups are outstanding, and Jackson gives a spectacular performance as the mayor. Not only totally unrecognizable, his voice is also different. I saw Ghosts but once, on VH-1 (I think) during the Halloween season a few years back. Why it hasn't gotten more airplay is beyond me. As for the "creepy" kids connection, I don't buy it. True, there are kids in the film, and they do seem to "understand" MJ more than their closed-minded parents and the afore-mentioned mayor. But it works within the concept of the play. As for Thriller, the one thing that impressed me the most way back when was MJ's make-up. He truly looked emaciated! Alas, his real-life face ventually came to look much worse!

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