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Dr Borgo	Friday The 13th remake	Lead	[-]
(07/02/08 7:08 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite	Tags : None I looked back about eight pages and didn't see a thread for this one. I am usually against remakes but since I hated the original so much I don't mind seeing Hollywood make another go at this one. I am just hoping there is more to the remake than just a bunch disposable teens getting whacked in various ways. http//www.imdb.com/title/tt0758746/
Jeffrey Allen Rydell		#1	[-]
(07/02/08 9:31 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite	Dr Borgo wrote: I am just hoping there is more to the remake than just a bunch disposable teens getting whacked in various ways. Such as...? - Jeff
blackbiped		#2	[-]
(07/03/08 1:49 AM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite	The original was always a piece of junk to me, along with its sequels, so the idea of a remake doesn't especially bother me, either. Legend, oh legend, the third wheel legend...always in the way. My MySpace page BumsCorner.com
Joe Karlosi		#3	[-]
(07/03/08 7:05 AM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite	I enjoy the original, and all the sequels as well. I was 18 when the first one came out, though I didn't see it at the time and began with PART II. I then made it a regular routine of going to see each and every new installment in the theater with my friends when each first opened. So I'm a big fan of the original series, and have always accepted it for what it is - just a maniac in a mask slaughtering people in a variety of different methods. I let my hair down when seeing these movies and don't go into them expecting high art, or even anything which resembles a real movie most of the time. Having said all this, it may come as a surprise to those who know how much I hate unnecessary modern remakes that I'm not completely against the idea of a new version of FRIDAY THE 13th. Because the old series has run its course, and there is nothing much else you can do with it. I see a new F13 as a re-boot of a tired series, kind of like what happened with CASINO ROYALE and the current James Bond franchise, or the new BATMAN films. I realize comparing these films to F13 is sort of like comparing apples and pits, but all the same -- I'm in! ---------------------- "It's MORE ... than a hobby!" Last Edited By: Joe Karlosi 07/03/08 7:07 AM. Edited 1 times.
GhostofChaneysLiver		#4	[-]
(07/03/08 7:26 AM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite	Jeffrey Allen Rydell wrote: Dr Borgo wrote: I am just hoping there is more to the remake than just a bunch disposable teens getting whacked in various ways. Such as...? Jason has the letters of transit which are hidden under his hockey mask, meanwhile he has an old score to settle with Ilsa...now, where did he put that machete? Cromwell
Dr Borgo		#5	[-]
(07/03/08 5:57 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite	Such as...? Anything really. Wouldn't take much to improve on the original movie. Maybe flesh out the characters a little bit? Maybe the audience would then care what happens to the teens rather than just watching them get offed one by one.
drmedula		#6	[-]
(07/03/08 8:53 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite	Not that I expect the filmmakers to stick with this... but Jason wasn't actually the killer in the first one, was he?
Jeffrey Allen Rydell		#7	[-]
(07/03/08 9:32 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite	drmedula wrote: Not that I expect the filmmakers to stick with this... but Jason wasn't actually the killer in the first one, was he? This one incorporates the hand-off from the original film's killer to sack-head Jason, who then finds a hockey mask, etc... - Jeff
capmonte		#8	[-]
(07/04/08 12:03 AM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite	I would think a remake would dispense with the Mrs. Voorhees angle (or at least, deal with it pretty quickly) and move straight on to Jason hacking and slashing. Or maybe not. "The important question is not, are there aliens on other worlds? No. The important question is, do they have ray guns?"
happydude33		#9	[-]
(07/04/08 11:50 AM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite	I'm actually looking forward to this. I LOATHED the first one-the only one I've seen, but the character has become pretty iconic over the years. So I really think this could be good if done with a sense of humor, taking the one good element from those movies and making something over the top and fun. Which is why I was beside myself with glee when talk came up of Tarantino being involved. Unfortunately I have less faith in the folks who did that awful Texas Chainsaw remake, but from the reports I've read they're one the right path.
Southern Beau		#10	[-]
(07/05/08 11:00 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite	I'm curious about this one as well. I don't think it will be suspenseful or good. Then again, I could be wrong; and all the more reason to go see it. I respect the first and second films in the series because they were suspenseful. Of course, they also incorporated graphic violence. Nevertheless, that stuff scared the life out of audiences. It wasn't like what it became with part three, on. It's ashame they didn't ask Betsy Palmer back as Mrs. Voorhees. She's alive and well, as far as I know. It would have been nice to have her as something of a bridge between old and new. Last Edited By: Southern Beau 07/06/08 11:37 PM. Edited 1 times.
capmonte		#11	[-]
(07/06/08 1:35 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite	Southern Beau wrote: I'm curious about this one as well. I don't think it will be suspenseful or good. Then again, I could be wrong; and all the more reason to go see it. I respect the first and second films in the series because they were suspenseful. Of course, they also incorporated graphic violence. Nevertheless, that stuff scared the life out of audiences. It wasn't like what it because with part three, on. It's ashame they didn't ask Betsy Palmer back as Mrs. Voorhees. She's alive and well, as far as I know. It would have been nice to have her as something of a bridge between old and new. I would think it would take a lot to get her involved in some way. They had asked her to appear in Freddy vs. Jason, but she balked at the "low" salary they offered her, whatever that was. Considering she only took the role in the first place because she needed money for a car, I don't think she's got much love for the films. That's my take, anyway. "The important question is not, are there aliens on other worlds? No. The important question is, do they have ray guns?"
yendor1152		#12	[-]
(07/06/08 5:04 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite	happydude33 wrote: I'm actually looking forward to this. I LOATHED the first one-the only one I've seen, but the character has become pretty iconic over the years. Well, if you've seen the original FIRST movie, you know that Jason himself is DEAD. He wasn't even really a character in the film, outside of a few dreamy flashbacks where you see someone bouncing up and down in the water and screaming, "help me, mommy!" When he grabs the girl and drags her out of the boat in the conclusion, I think it was pretty obvious this was all in her mind. When Jason shows up in Part II, it completely negates the reason for Mrs. Vorhees going on a rampage. If Jason was alive all this time, what's the point? Rod
Joe Karlosi		#13	[-]
(07/06/08 5:51 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite	Well, if you've seen the original FIRST movie, you know that Jason himself is DEAD. He wasn't even really a character in the film, outside of a few dreamy flashbacks where you see someone bouncing up and down in the water and screaming, "help me, mommy!" When he grabs the girl and drags her out of the boat in the conclusion, I think it was pretty obvious this was all in her mind. Or it may not be in her mind -- When Jason shows up in Part II, it completely negates the reason for Mrs. Vorhees going on a rampage. If Jason was alive all this time, what's the point? I don't think mom knew he was alive. Works for me. Besides, all that mattered from that point on was to watch for the killings, regardless of details. ---------------------- "It's MORE ... than a hobby!"
Quarterman		#14	[-]
(07/06/08 6:32 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite	It wouldnt be bad to have a hyperstylized make-over and a stronger story. Not necessarily dispense with Mrs Voorhees just make a respectable film. But in all probabilities this will be a by-the-numbers teen slasher. sigh
yendor1152		#15	[-]
(07/06/08 9:07 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite	Well, there are two things wrong with your theory, Joe. For one, when Jason pulls the girl into the water, it's the same Jason as twenty years before (or ten years, can't recall). He hasn't aged a bit and is still a teenager. Secondly, Mrs. Vorhees knew that Jason had been left alone while swimming. I doubt his body went missing, since she seemed to know all the circumstances of his death and apparently the camp was closed down because of it. If Jason actually survived the swimming accident, what happened? Did he just crawl out of the water and into the woods, where he built a little hut and shut himself away from mom? I doubt it. It's obvious to me that the screenwriters didn't expect a sequel, and the only way to crib one together was to capitalize on Jason--especially since Mrs. Vorhees was beheaded. Rod
capmonte		#16	[-]
(07/07/08 12:24 AM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite	Or, Jason could have been dead, but his mother's killing in his name and eventual death may have been that spark that brought him to life. It's no ridiculous than any of the other ways he came back to life. I know they didn't expect to make a sequel, but that's what retconning is for! "The important question is not, are there aliens on other worlds? No. The important question is, do they have ray guns?"
Joe Karlosi		#17	[-]
(07/07/08 6:17 AM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite	If Jason actually survived the swimming accident, what happened? Did he just crawl out of the water and into the woods, where he built a little hut and shut himself away from mom? I doubt it. It's obvious to me that the screenwriters didn't expect a sequel, and the only way to crib one together was to capitalize on Jason--especially since Mrs. Vorhees was beheaded. Rod And is that a bad thing? It certainly wouldn't be the first time a sequel (or entire franchise for that matter) was later built around an original film, throwing all caution to the wind. Plus, if they really needed to, they could have come up with some way as to how Mrs. Voorhees regained her head. It's been happening in horror sequels forever. It just seems to me like this is an ideal case of overthinking what is basically a dopey throwaway series of films, Rod. So Mother died, Jason rose ... lotsa carnage ensued! ---------------------- "It's MORE ... than a hobby!"
Southern Beau		#18	[-]
(07/07/08 11:32 AM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite	One of the reasons I respect the second film in the series is the fact that Jason kept his mother's head. In this sequel, they were trying to be true to character development. By part four, none of this matter anymore. Pamela Voorhee's head and the shack where Jason resided were no longer seen. Thus, Jason became the killing machine he is today. He even left camp to go to the Big Apple. The original story vanished. As Joe mentioned, this isn't "the first time a sequel (or entire franchise for that matter) was later built around an original film, throwing all caution to the wind."
happydude33		#19	[-]
(07/07/08 5:01 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite	It just seems to me like this is an ideal case of overthinking what is basically a dopey throwaway series of films, Rod. So Mother died, Jason rose ... lotsa carnage ensued! And I'm certainly not expecting there to be any kind of continuity with the old ones. Don't really know what to expect of this, but I'm guessing it'll be more along the lines of Tim Burton's Planet of the Apes (yes, I said it, and I already regret it.) where they DO throw all caution to the wind. They're trying, bottom line, to make money off a tried-and-true name franchise. And the folks going to see this associate Jason with the hockey mask, which is why they're using it and probably not worrying too much that he didn't don the mask until Part 3.
happydude33		#20	[-]
(07/07/08 5:02 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite	happydude33 wrote: "It just seems to me like this is an ideal case of overthinking what is basically a dopey throwaway series of films, Rod. So Mother died, Jason rose ... lotsa carnage ensued! " And I'm certainly not expecting there to be any kind of continuity with the old ones. Don't really know what to expect of this, but I'm guessing it'll be more along the lines of Tim Burton's Planet of the Apes (yes, I said it, and I already regret it.) where they DO throw all caution to the wind. They're trying, bottom line, to make money off a tried-and-true name franchise. And the folks going to see this associate Jason with the hockey mask, which is why they're using it and probably not worrying too much that he didn't don the mask until Part 3.

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