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Abrovic: you're hailing from my husband's home town.
Jessie Lilley
"I'm not an alcoholic, I'm a drunk. Alcoholics go to meetings." |
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Whatsallthis |
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Once I was in an old-time candy confection store, the kind with all kinds of candy right by the cash register, with the old facades, etc. There's a guy
right ahead of me on line and at first I didn't notice anything peculiar about him, but then I suddenly spotted a gaping hole in the back of his head. He
had a full head of short hair, except where the wide, jagged and irregularly shaped chasm was located. I looked into the hole in his head, and there did not
appear to be anything that could be seen inside it. No blood, no ooze, no brain matter, just a void. I was absolutely
astounded that anyone could possibly live let alone function and wait on line at a candy counter with such an impossibly tremendous
wound to the back of their skull!
The guy paid for his item and left the store. I didn't bother waiting and left my item on the counter and followed him immediately outside. There was no sign of him at all anywhere. I re-entered the store and asked the guy behind the counter if he noticed what I saw. He remembered the guy, but obviously did not see the back of his head. I began to shake. Really scary. Then I woke up. It was just a dream. Sorry it's not a real story, but then again I don't believe in ghosts or souls or the hereafter or anything like that. Just thought it would be fun to relate this actual dream that I have never forgotten through the years.
"How can I handcuff a bloomin' shirt??!?"
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Monsterpal |
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An empty head. Pretty scary, Whatsallthis. Could it be that your subconscious was trying to tell you something about ghost stories?
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oldmanster |
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Let me just offer the position that ghosts can be "real" without being supernatural or involving an
afterlife of any kind. ... Reed |
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Wich2 |
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Conan Doyle, who began life as a Victorian Rationalist/Skeptic, and ended it as what was called then a Spiritualist, basically described his worldview as
one that said there's not really anything in this universe that is SUPER-natural. That is to say, if it exists in this system it is by definition
"natural" to it.
This functions very well as a working theory, and doesn't require us to dismiss, or look down on, people or events that are not easily explained. For myself, there are far too many such occurences, from far too many people, for far too many millennia, to allow reasonable parties to discount it all simply because it isn't understood. And as Sir Arthur might add, "understood YET..." Best,
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Monsterpal |
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Oo-wee-ooo!
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abrovic |
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JessieLilley wrote: He's from Ravenel? I actually live in North Charleston, but Ravenel's in the same county so it's easy to stop by there.
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oldmanster |
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Wich2 wrote: Although I'd never go so far as to put words in any dead person's mouth, his viewpoint fits in well with Deism.
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Mummified Remains |
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That's my view. Life blows then there's nothing. Make your own fun. Period. "There is no heaven, there is no hell, there are no angels, there is no devil and there is no God....MERRY CHRISTMAS!!" - Howard Stern
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Wich2 |
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MR, I'll look to greater sages than Howie, if ya don't mind!
-Craig W. |
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Wich2 |
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Dear Reed-
"Although I'd never go so far as to put words in any dead person's mouth," Well, I didn't use qoutation marks, did I? But having read many books by & about ACD, that's an honest attempt at a fair summation. Folks do that here all the time, about the views of everyone from Bela Lugosi to Carl Dreyer, yes? "his viewpoint fits in well with Deism." I think he leaned that way, in a broad sense; but most of what he said about about the limits of our knowledge applies Creator or no. "I have the Stashower biography of him . I need to get into it." Dickson Carr's is good, too; but even better are the man's own: MEMORIES AND ADVENTURES and THE EDGE OF THE UNKNOWN. Best, -Craig W. |
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JessieLilley |
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He's from Ravenel? I actually live in North Charleston, but Ravenel's in the same county so it's easy to stop by there.No. He was born and raised in Charleston, SC. In your original post you mentioned that you lived in Charleston. Therefore, I thought you were hailing from there. And it seems - you were.
Jessie Lilley
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Mummified Remains |
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I don't mind, Wich. To each their own- as the woman said when she kissed her cow.
If I'm right, there will be nothing after we all croak and we won't even realize the difference. If I'm wrong, I will stew in hell for eternity and I won't even realize the difference!
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Wich2 |
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MR, I'm with you 110% - everyone finds their own way, with as much help as they can get!
As far as what's next, if there is a next, I have a feeling it's not as black/white as the scenarios you describe. Hell, THIS world isn't that simple - why would any other be? Bottom line, as one of the wisest men I ever knew used to say, "within a hundred years or so, we'll ALL know one way or the other..." Best, -Craig W. |
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porta |
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I'm not going to die. And you can quote me on that.
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Monsterpal |
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There isn't a shred of evidence for the existence of ghosts that isn't anecdotal. The only way it makes any sense is symbolic, as Reed strongly
implies. But if you want to believe in haunts, be my guest. I'm with Popeye---Ghosks Is The Bunk!
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oldmanster |
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Actually, I tend to lean more to the scientific rather than the symbolic, MP. Psionics. Always consider psionics. Words to the wise from Poopdeck Pappy.
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Monsterpal wrote:As the government guy says in INDEPENDENCE DAY, that's not entirely true. There is some photographic evidence, most of it incredibly weak, but the "ghost light" that Frank de Felitta managed to photograph (only after "asking permission from the ghosts") as part of his investigations for the "Stately Ghosts of England" special (back in the '60's, long before THE ENTITY) was, at least, somewhat intriguing. Unlike UFOs, which I would consider a "public phenomenon" (why hasn't somebody managed to get something really impressive yet on home video if there really are such things?), I tend to think of ghosts as much more of a private experience. Maybe that's why I think there might be more to ghosts than UFOs. Also, frankly, I have a hard time believing that people like Peter Jackson would just outright lie about these things. I'm referring to his personal "ghost story" at the beginning of the documentary on the DVD of THE FRIGHTENERS. His ghost story, it seems to me, boils down to one of three things. One, he's lying. Two, he thought he was awake when he was actually asleep. (This is a problem since his mate Fran saw the same ghost earlier.) Third, he saw what he saw when he saw it.
"I never met a man I didn't meet." -Aristotle
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Whatsallthis |
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porta wrote:
Now that would make a fantastic epitaph. It would be even better than Joan Hackett's.
"How can I handcuff a bloomin' shirt??!?"
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Were the ghosts in The Frighteners based upon ghosts you have known? Not really. But five or six years ago, I was in my apartment here in New Zealand. It was about six o'clock in the morning and Fran was out making a cup of coffee in the kitchen. I was lying in bed, the bedroom door was open, and suddenly this woman just kind of drifted into the bedroom. I was immediately kind of tense because I thought it was a real person. The woman also looked scary because she had this fixed scream on her face - her mouth was wide open. It took me a few seconds to realise that it was a ghost, but once I did it wasn't so scary. It was much more frightening when it could have been a real person. She was kind of transparent, like a photographic negative of an image. She drifted past the end of the bed, slightly rising into the air, and then she disappeared through the far wall. I yelled out to Fran, saying, 'I think I've just seen a ghost.' And the first thing she said was, 'Was it a woman with a screaming face?' This was her apartment where she'd been living for about five years. Two years earlier she had woken up in the middle of the night and seen a woman with a screaming face standing at the end of the bed.
"I never met a man I didn't meet." -Aristotle
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