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Mar 15 17 12:47 PM
As I've said, religion is a tread-lightly topic at the CHFB and showing respect for all points of view -- surprised I haven't heard from pagans!
You and me both.
To compare: I recall when Disney's Aladdin came out. Many Muslims were horrified at the scene where the merchant appears ready to chop off Jasmine's hand for filching a bit of food. Charity is one of the Five Pillars of Islam; a traditional Muslim would never react like this. I am wondering what points in The Wicker Man (aside from the obvious) would be considered antithetical to most neo-pagans, and which elements, conversely, would seem right at home.
A note on likening the Eucharist to cannibalism: the point is not to denigrate the Eucharist. Rather, it is instructive to re-think how "odd" unfamiliar traditions really are considering that the most sacred rite of most Christians involves ritually consuming the founder of the religion. It might be a little weird for a girl to stick a frog in her mouth when she has a sore throat, but is it really that much more irrational than anointing the sick?
Mar 15 17 1:34 PM
Many Muslims were horrified...
...ritually consuming the founder of the religion...
Mar 15 17 6:30 PM
Mar 15 17 8:05 PM
"...Yet a time comes when reasonable men find it hard to understand how any one in his senses can suppose that by eating bread or drinking wine he consumes the body or blood of a deity..."
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Mar 15 17 11:09 PM
Wich2 wrote:...I'll agree with the idea that I'd love to hear a practicing Pagan/Wiccan post on the original topic...
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Mar 16 17 11:59 PM
Wich2 wrote:I was wondering if we had any pagan members here - or if any members here had friends - who might comment directly.
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Apr 4 17 7:10 PM
skull island escapee wrote:Whether Christian. Pagan or Jew---We've a drink to welcome youAccording to one of my History Books, the above couplet was displayed in a frame on the wall of the local tavern where the young Hitlers' father drunk to excess: he may even died while drunk there.
Apr 4 17 8:59 PM
hermanthegerm wrote:Many Muslims were horrified...
The weirdest thing about Aladdin is that Aladdin was originally set in China. Aladdin was supposed to be Chinese. Aladdin's uncle was supposed to be African. Disney turned them into Middle Eastern characters (although there probably have been other, earlier versions that did the same.)
I remember plenty other horrific events in the original Arabian Nights. Cutting hands would be the very least of it....ritually consuming the founder of the religion...
Ritually consuming His flesh, then drinking His blood. If you are not Catholic or Lutheran you may view this as merely symbolic (in which case the 'c' word would not apply,) but these two religions make it a matter of dogma that the sacrament consists literally of His flesh and blood (refer to the miracle of Lanciano.) This is the reason why I was very specific about it.
And as I've said, Catholicism is not unique in this aspect (The Golden Bough scholarly name for the ritual is the 'homeopathic magic of a flesh diet.')
Apr 4 17 9:29 PM
Apr 4 17 10:34 PM
salzmank wrote:...though the exact mechanics of it are distinct in each denomination. In Catholicism, however, the point is that the essences of the bread and wine change but the accidents do not...
...though the exact mechanics of it are distinct in each denomination. In Catholicism, however, the point is that the essences of the bread and wine change but the accidents do not...
Apr 5 17 2:22 AM
scotpens wrote:skull island escapee wrote:Whether Christian. Pagan or Jew---We've a drink to welcome youAccording to one of my History Books, the above couplet was displayed in a frame on the wall of the local tavern where the young Hitlers' father drunk to excess: he may even died while drunk there.That sounds like a variation or paraphrase of a verse from an old Irish drinking song.Now learned men as use the penhave writ their praises high Of the sweet poteen from Ireland green, distilled from wheat and rye. Away with yer pills, it'll cure all ills, be ye pagan, Christian or Jew, So take off your coat and grease your throatwith a bucket of mountain dew.
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