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Rick wrote:While I can accept the notion that it's actually a cemetery gate -- there might be some sense to that -- I have never, never, not once thought of it as such. The whole notion that it is a cemetery gate is entirely new to me.
Mar 19 15 7:03 AM
cjh5801 wrote:Well, we see the same gates when the bobby bicycles up and hears a child cry in the night, after which we see Lucy apparently returning to her crypt.
Mar 19 15 7:08 AM
Casey62 wrote:ryanbrennan wrote:I wonder why they didn't use the Phantom Stage for the theater scene? Would have added some production value.
I thought they did...
That stock shot with the ballerinas from PHANTOM is jarringly out of place in Melford's version.
ryanbrennan wrote:I wonder why they didn't use the Phantom Stage for the theater scene? Would have added some production value.
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Wich2 wrote:Let's posit that a bit filmed by an Abbey set piece is used there as shorthand to suggest a cemetary, and to fulfill that beat in the story.
That fact does not PROVE in any way that Browning either had available a more expansive graveyard/mausoleum set, or that he shot a more expansive staking sequence.
It only proves that a bit filmed by an Abbey set piece is used there as shorthand to suggest a cemetary, and to fulfill that beat in the story.
(Documented facts DO prove that the project was under budgetary pressure, and also that Browning mades changes to the piece for his own reasons throughout the whole producution period.)
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Rick wrote:It's awfully lucky for film purposes that the asylum, the Abbey, and Lucy's tomb are all within spitting distance of each other. Guess that city's smaller than I thought it was.One drizzly day in Toronto, coupla years back, I was walking behind a middle-aged lady and gent. Overhearing bits of conversation I gathered that she was a local while he was visiting from England. At one point she apologized for the rainy weather. The gent laughed and said, "I'm from London, I'm used to this." After a moment of thought, the lady politely asked, "that London...it's kind of a big town, isn't it?"Not according to Browning's...Laemmle's...the Universal DRACULA it's not.Anyway...why should anyone assume -- unless he's given clews -- that the boys are standing at a cemetery gate when they're clearly close enough to home to race each other to the front stoop? I mean, I get the sense of why it probably/possibly is the cemetery gate, but, you know, we really shouldn't have to puzzle this out. If it's part of the story, let us know, don't make us stop and frame-by-frame and read the script and compare to the Melford film. At the very least, Harker could have a pick or shovel over the shoulder, Van Helsing could be wiping the goo off his hands, somebody could say, " 'gor blimey, but that Lucy was a bloody mess." Sumpin. Ya know?In short (too late for that), if we're supposed to know they're at the cemetery, but we can't get that till it's parsed out for us -- it ain't workin'.
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