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atenolol |
WHICH DECADE PRODUCED THE BEST FILMS |
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If you are being sent to a desert island and could only take the movies of one decade with you, which decade would you choose? Why?
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son of metaldams |
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Good question, and Id say the 30's. Fascinating combination of pre-codes, post-codes (is that a term?), and basically the progression from 1930's
getting used to sound to 1939's "all-time greatest year." Tons of legit stars, tons of genres, the studio system at its peak, and for the sake
of this board, the golden era of horror. There are several other great decades, and like others, the30's also produced crap, but by sheer number of great
films and progression, the 30's all the way.
Scum!
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TServo4 |
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I would probably choose the 1950s. There was a great mix of films released that embraced the studio system while a few slipped by that went against the grain.
J. Theakston
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blackbiped |
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I'm not even going to try to answer this question. Just thinking about it is tearing me apart.
Legend, oh legend, the third wheel legend...always in the way.
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skelton knaggs |
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The question is truly subjective. Answers depend on age, taste, brain cells, etc. I would have to agree with Mr. TServo4. The 1950's were my formative
years for film appreciation. These are the films that give me the most joy and not tire of repeated viewings.
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Tumak |
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atenolol wrote: The 1990s, to motivate getting my ass off of the island. |
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TomWeaver999 |
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For my tastes, the '30s, by a long shot.
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Joe Karlosi |
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I'm still waiting.
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Robert Summit |
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Have to pick the 20s, and if I was stranded on two desert islands, the 30s. I need my Chaplins and Keatons and Laurel and Hardies. And Lon Chaney. And the
first great Universal horrors. And Errol Flynn swashbucklers.
"If you had a face like mine, you'd punch me right in the nose, and I'm just the guy that can do it!"
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atenolol |
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TomWeaver999 wrote: Just for curiousity and fun--why exactly? What makes the 1930's best? |
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captainmarvel1957 |
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Gotta' be the 1930's. There has to be a reason that 69 years later 1939 is still regarded as the greatest year in motion picture history. Today movies
are technically superior to any films that have ever been made---but seventy years from now nobody will be talking about all of the great motion pictures that
were made in 2007 and 2008. Maybe Aaron Spelling was right and there are only a half dozen stories to tell and they were covered so well in the 1930's that
everything else just seems to be derivative.
While each decade has its bright spots the decades as a whole pale when compared to the 1930's. The 1920's and 1940's had some great output, and then things began to go flat in the 1950's. The 1960's were the weakest decade in movie history, there were only so many Dr. Zhivagos to go around. The movies didn't get their sea legs back until the 1970's. All my opinion, of course. I think it has a lot to do with the writers and the level of on screen talent that was working in Hollywood in the 1930's. A lot of the credit can also be laid at the doorstep of the studio system which was at its peak in the 30's. When artisans show up to work 40 hours a week what they are doing becomes second nature to them. They didn't sign to write or appear in one movie and immediately begin hustling to land the next one. They concentrated on what they were doing at the time and the studio heads made plans for what their next project should be. While we cringe at the thought of Ronald Reagan playing Rick instead of Bogart for the most part the studio heads seemed to get it right---at least where the films that have survived and seen are concerned. Which may be another reason we revere the 30's and not the 60's. We got the opportunity to see a lot of the films that were made in the 1950's, 60's, etc, the good and the bad. A lot of product from earlier decades has been either lost or swept under the carpet. If we saw all of it we may have a different opinon. Maybe the question we should be asking is which decade made the best films based on the percentage of films that were made. |
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GhostofChaneysLiver |
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atenolol wrote: If I were stranded on a desert island what would I watch them on? Cromwell
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evilskippy |
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The 60's. That way I could have all of the krimis (save for one), the Mabuse films, Euro horror and mucho more.
"Some days its not worth the effort of chewing through the restraints".
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Wich2 |
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Glad folks mentioned Magic 1939 - that year is just gold.
And if you bracket it with just '38 and '40 - man, the CREAM that's there! Best, -Craig W. |
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BlondieJohnson |
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I go with the 1930s, too. "A" movies, "B" movies, serials, shorts, dramas, comedies, horror, everything. Cagney in his prime, Eddie G.
being tough and funny (A Slight Case of Murder, etc.). Bela and Boris. Universal Horrors. Bogart in Return of Dr. X
(seriously). George Raft before he started turning everything down. The Thin Man. Joan Blondell. Buster Crabbe. Mascot. Pre-Codes. Cary Grant and
Irene Dunne. Bringing Up Baby. It Happened One Night. Ice Follies of 1939. Wynne Gibson. Cokehead Ann Dvorak throwing
herself out a window in Three On a Match to save her child. Clark Gable, foiled by Barbara Stanwyck, trying to starve a child in Night Nurse.
Runaway heiresses. Rochelle Hudson machine-gunning gangsters in Show Them No Mercy! Spotting the future "Wild Bill" Elliott as a dress
extra. Charlie Chan. Mr. Moto. The Women. Garbo as Camille. King Kong. Lionel Atwill. Jean Arthur. Fay Wray.
The list goes on and on. It was allll great. |
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TomWeaver999 |
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Daisy and Violet Hilton. TERROR OF TINY TOWN. Ingagi.
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BlondieJohnson |
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How could I forget?
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telegonus |
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This is a tough one. Noir is one of my favorite genres, and that's the 40's. Some fine films about World War II, whether combat,
thriller, comedy or drama. Citizen Kane and the best of the early Orson Welles belongs to the 40's. Also, the best (indeed most) of
Preston Sturges; some great early Billy Wilder; great stuff from up and comers, from Huston to Kazan to Mankiewicz. For all that, I don't think of the
specifically Hollywood 40's as particularly larger than life; many of the great stars of the period (Bogart, Davis, Hayworth, Turner), yes, but
not so much the decade as a whole. Important as movies were back then, I think it's far to say that World War II was even bigger; and after that came the
Cold War.
As to the 30's, well, the Depression was big, too, and it paralyzed much of the nation; yet in those years, maybe because movies were so important, Hollywood rose to the occasion and assumed (or maybe I should say retained, from the 20's) a larger than life status that was big enough to fight off those Depression blues. Movies were bigger than radio in the 30's, as it took time for average people with limited incomes to acquire a radio; by the tail end of the decade radio was beginning to assume a status akin to what television achieved ten years later, as a living-room alternative to movies. In time, radio and the movies achieved a parity; but the newer medium never came close to replacing the older one. There was rivalry, to be sure, but because radio wasn't visual it didn't carry anywhere near the theat that television had from the get-go. Indeed, most of the major radio networks had state of the art west coast studios by the second half of the 30's, as they wanted to use Hollywood talent and also see some of their talent give the movies a shot. Bottom line: Hollywood pretty much owned the mass media 30's (not the case by the 40's). Why am I carrying on like this? Just thinking out loud, so to speak, rambling toward a conclusion, which is that I find the 30's a more interesting decade for films than the 40's. I'm not so sure it produced a better quality of film, and I'm not going to carry on about the superiority of, say, 30's super-productions (Mutiny On the Bounty, Lives Of a Bengal Lancer, San Francisco, Lost Horizon, Gunga Din) over similarly big, ambitious films from the 40's (How Green Was My Valley, Mrs. Miniver, Casablanca, For Whom the Bell Tolls, Duel In the Sun ) . At a personal level I feel more for the 40's. I think I understand the mentality, what was going on, why certain films got made. As to the 30's, it's too big for me to wrap my mind around. It's easy to see why people went for Van Johnson and June Allyson, to understand why Going My Way was such a big hit, why people liked the Hope and Crosby pictures, the Abbott and Costello ones, the Betty Grables. When it's the 30's it's like OMG! There was so much going on! Take 1931, the year when two major genres emerged almost simultaneously, the gangster film and the horror film. So there's Little Caesar and The Public Enemy, Dracula and Frankenstein, with the first two coming from one studio, the last two another. In each case the second film was the bigger hit, made the bigger star. At around the same time audiences were becoming familiar with the names of Robinson, Cagney, Lugosi and Karloff they were becoming acquainted with Jean Harlow and Clark Gable. In comedy, the Marx Brothers were riding high already, with Laurel and Hardy not far behind. The best picture winner at the Oscars for that year was the western epic Cimarron, starring the still hot silent he-man star Richard Dix and newcomer Irene Dunne. A huge box-office draw at the time was child actor Jackie Cooper. Wallace Beery and Marie Dressler were at the top of their game that year, too, with Will Rogers also coming on strong. That's a whole lotta stuff goin' on in one year; and that's just off the top of my head. The Hollywood of the 30's is so fascinating, what with so much happening, so many things,--whether films trends, stars--compressed into one year (1933: King Kong and 42nd Street, The Invisible Man and Cavalcade, Duck Soup and She Done Him Wrong!). There was so much going on, so much creativity, so many genres up and down, then up again; careers that seemed so promising one year falling apart just a few short years down the rode (think of where Kay Francis, Constance Bennett, Phillips Holmes, Ann Harding and Warner Baxter stood in the Hollywood hierarchy of 1933, then look where they were five years later). The early, pre-Code 30's was quite grim and yet colorful in its downbeat way, while the middle part of the decade was much brighter, more full of action, romance and spectacle. In the early 30's Dressler and Harlow were top box-office; by the mid-30's Shirley Temple had conquered all, with Alice Faye coming up fast. The 30's was a decade that produced some weird (and on these boards much beloved) horror stuff like Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde, The Old Dark House, Dr. X, Freaks, The Mummy, Murders At the Zoo and The Island Of Lost Souls and Mickey and Judy, Dr. Kildare, Captains Courageous, You Can't Take It With You and The Wizard Of Oz. Was there ever another decade so diverse, so rich, so multi-faceted in the movies it produced, the genres it spawned? There was the wildly popular Thin Man series and the almost as popular Frankenstein one. Crazy, man! Then there are those films that are either lost or hard to find; things like Ingagi, The Bat Whispers, Air Devils, Wharf Angel. So as I think about it I prefer the 30's, which seems much larger than life than the more routine, conformist, artistically ambitious 40's. There seems so much more to the Hollywood of 1930-39. It may only have been a decade but it feels like a century. As to which decade produced the best films, I dunno, haven't done the math. The 30's probably has the edge, especially in terms of originality. |
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Cinema Bill |
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That's easy... The 30's...
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Omega Man |
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Something of a tough call, but I'd have to say the 1970s (certain clothing styles notwithstanding). |
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John T Chance |
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captainmarvel1957 wrote:Whoa! Have to respectfully but STRONGLY disagree here. I don't dispute the fact that the 30s through the 50s were great decades for film. But even if I were to grant you that the 30s or 40s are superior to the 60s (which I'm not, BTW), how you can find the latter decade the weakest in history is a mystery to me. Weaker than the 80s? 90s? Are you kidding? Any decade that gives the world such cinematic joys as THE GREAT ESCAPE, THE MAGNIFICENT SEVEN, POINT BLANK, THE PROFESSIONALS, 2001: A SPACE ODYSSEY, THE GUNS OF NAVARONE, LAWRENCE OF ARABIA, the first 6 Bond films, the Leone spaghetti westerns, esp. ONCE UPON A TIME IN THE WEST, BONNIE AND CLYDE, HARPER, PLANET OF THE APES, DANGER: DIABOLIK, FLIGHT OF THE PHOENIX, THE HAUNTING, THE INNOCENTS, HATARI, EL DORADO, PSYCHO, THE BIRDS, MARNIE, THE TIME MACHINE, HOMBRE, THE SUNDOWNERS, CAPE FEAR, EL CID, RIDE THE HIGH COUNTRY, THE WILD BUNCH, THE GRADUATE, EASY RIDER, JUDGMENT AT NUREMBURG, THE TRAIN, THE PRIZE, CHARADE, THE MAN WHO SHOT LIBERTY VALANCE, SPARTACUS, LONELY ARE THE BRAVE, THE MISFITS, MIDNIGHT COWBOY, SECONDS, BUTCH CASSIDY AND THE SUNDANCE KID, COOL HAND LUKE, IN THE HEAT OF THE NIGHT, ONE-EYED JACKS, THE SAND PEBBLES, BULLITT, THE DAMNED, ROSEMARY'S BABY, ZULU, THE ITALIAN JOB, plus many, many, MANY others -- is a heavyweight in my book. And don't forget the myriad wonderful foreign films released in that same decade! I think the 60s would do me on my desert island just fine, thanks. |
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